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The Future of America?

Posted by PlanetGrok on March 30, 2010

Commenter Sagat referred me to a suprisingly good show by the History Channel describing what could happen in the US if civilization fell apart due to some pathogenic plague. The show tries to get you to buy into the swine flu / avian flu pharmaceutical scams, but I think any plague on a civilization-ending scale will be bioengineered by terrorists.

Yes, the show had its liberal moments, but overall it reinforces many bio-con talking points.

The protagonist is a hapless beta provider with an annoying cunt of a wife. Over the course of the show, he gets more and more alpha, and his wife responds by becoming more wifely. He never completely crosses the Rubicon into pure alpha territory, but the harsh conditions force him to move up from almost Omega to Greater Beta status.

The really interesting parts, as Sagat noted, were the thinly veiled HBD and WN references by the woven narrative of talking heads and the statements of fictitious characters. L.A. and other urban areas turn into hellholes of rampaging NAMs. References to Katrina abound. The wife pleads with her husband to move to the known WN haven of Idaho, presumably to escape the savagery of the NAMs in LA.  Eventually the family settles in a small, all-white town with a preacher who proudly claims those “recently from the desert” (mexicans) and “those recently from the jungle” (blacks) are being “winnowed out” (dying off, killed off). A revealing scene is also when the family moves into their previously occupied home and notes the previous family’s “interesting taste in crockery” (yes, History Channel, we get the pun) while unpacking. The part where the beta husband actually shows his wife what is printed on the pot is censored, leaving a frustrating gap. It might have been too much for the History Channels large NAM viewership, which they gave a nod to with every “This is not a real emergency” announcement.

This got me thinking, even if there is only a 1-5% chance of this sort of scenario, it would be prudent to have at least the following in one’s possession:

– a gun and ammo

– emergency 60 gallon water bags to fill up before the water is turned off

– gold and cigarettes for bartering

– medical supplies, 3-6 months worth of canned foods, and seeds

-how-to books on gardening, machinery, and other skills.

I think also think the show is right in forecasting an initial post-apocalyptic takeover by NAMs, since most white males are hamstrung by a beta mentality, like that of our pussified paramedic protagonist, and would get their asses beat. Eventually, however, a resounding pushback by whites to the point of ethnic cleansing would occur.

Boy I hope all of this does not happen.

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18 Responses to “The Future of America?”

  1. It’s embarassing what the history channel has been transformed into.

    A few years ago it felt like a really informative network. These days it seems like every other show is about the rapture, Nostradamus, Mayan prophecies, and so forth.

  2. Vincent Ignatius said

    In many parts of the world guys like me would be screwed. Emergencies bring back people’s primitive impulses, including racism. Almost nobody looks at my face and identifies me as a co-ethnic.

    A few years ago it felt like a really informative network. These days it seems like every other show is about the rapture, Nostradamus, Mayan prophecies, and so forth.

    Idiocracy.

  3. Tarl said

    If you live in a city, or even the suburbs, and you’re stockpiling that stuff, you’re pretty much wasting your time. A mob of bad guys will break in and take it all, and kill you if they have to. No, you don’t have enough ammo to hold them all off, and anyway, they’ll burn the house down around your ears if you shoot at them. Won’t just be the NAMs – even white suburbanites would get quite nasty if they were hungry and scared.

    If “civilization” breaks down for more than a week (tops) you need to get the hell out of dodge. Obviously it helps to have a place to go that is prepared ahead of time.

    • Dalrock said

      You are assuming normal or near normal mobility during times of disaster, and this is a very bad assumption. If the disaster comes with enough warning and you heed the warning while others don’t, your plan would work. If things go really bad, packing up the car and hitting the road just moves the location of the fight for survival you referenced.

      Instead of having that fight from your own home filled with supplies in a location you know and surrounded by neighbors you share a common bond with, now you will have the fight at some random spot on the road where your car broke down, ran out of gas, or the road became impassable. Neither tactical situation is good, but one is certainly preferable.

      For 95% of us, movement during a true Sh*t Hits The Fan situation would ultimately mean leading our extended families out of harms way on foot (once the road or fuel ran out). There are situations where this might become essential, but it shouldn’t be treated lightly. This is a different kind of planning than starting with the assumption that complex transportation infrastructure will remain up and running while the worst is happening.

      Also legally being at home probably has a big advantage when it comes to self defense during a disaster. Shooting someone who is trying to break into your home is much easier to explain after the fact than shooting someone who came near your stranded car on a car strewn highway. The problem with real end of civilization type scenarios is they probably won’t come with an official starters gun. Something unexpected would go wrong causing you to loose contact with the outside world. For several weeks at least, it wouldn’t be evident if this was a temporary disruption of services or true societal breakdown. Emotionally it would feel like the end of the world, but statistically it is by far more likely that any disruption is local and/or temporary. Think of all of the panic that happened around Katrina, even in the age of satellites, etc. The point being that things could feel like total anarchy for several weeks, but after the fact you could have to face judgment for your actions by people sitting in a calm air conditioned court room. An interruption in services for several weeks isn’t a legal justification to behave as if one is in a Mad Max movie.

  4. Sagat said

    I think that this show was a good mental preparation if you haven’t played out these types of events in your mind before. It seems to be the trend to dismiss post-apocalyptic scenarios as tripe for the simple minded, but it’s always better to be prepared than not. I don’t think we necessarily need a pandemic to trigger this; any number of events could begin the domino effect that would lead to civilizational breakdown. We are already in a terrible recession and numerous trends forecasters predict economic collapse. I don’t find the type of scenario presented in the show to be far fetched.

    Your recommendations are good, but I’d add to your list something known as a “bug-out” bag. This would be a large camping back-pack filled with essential survival supplies, such as a portable water filtration device, first aid kit, knives, a hatchet, a small pup tent, an led flashlight, high protein bars, etc. You’d need to have this in case some event forced you to suddenly abandon your home.

    Also, a good shotgun is very affordable and anyone can buy one at your local Wal-mart or sporting goods store. There’s no good reason to not be armed. If you are worried about accidental discharge keep a safety lock on the trigger.

  5. Obsidian said

    First of all, what is the name of this program? I’d very much like to watch it, and is it available online?

    Secondly, I think African Americans have proven themselves to be quite resilient, if you consider the situation historically. I don’t see us being “wiped out” as easily or quickly as some of the hardcore HBDers would like to believe. Also, I find it ironic that one of the better “post-apocolyptic” films in recent years starred a Black Man-Will Smith’s “I Am Legend”. Wait, and I almost forgot “The Book of Eli”, starring Denzel Washington, too.

    Third, I really don’t think it is at all beyond the pale to think such a thing couldn’t happen. Katrina showed just how possible this is, and that didn’t have anything to do with biological stuff and so on. I think it is highly prudent to have that “bug out bag” prepared, and just use commonsense-keep your eyes and ears open, prepare for the unexpected, etc.

    Lastly, I think the History Channel, like any business, responds to the whims of the market-so long as people enjoy watching this kind of stuff, they’ll keep airing it. Pretty simple Econ 101 to me. *shrugs*

    The Obsidian

    • Rex said

      Anybody else surprised that Obsidian brings up blacks here?

      Secondly, I think African Americans have proven themselves to be quite resilient, if you consider the situation historically. I don’t see us being “wiped out” as easily or quickly as some of the hardcore HBDers would like to believe. Also, I find it ironic that one of the better “post-apocolyptic” films in recent years starred a Black Man-Will Smith’s “I Am Legend”. Wait, and I almost forgot “The Book of Eli”, starring Denzel Washington, too.

      Yeah, it’s called r-selection. R-selection generally works in unstable environments where reproducing quickly and abundantly is crucial. Which is why you see blacks in Africa still around despite their inability to feed themselves and all the diseases. Of course food aid is a factor as well. They have high mortality rates, but they have high fertility rates and breed quickly, so they survive and continue to exist. They would get “wiped out” if they engaged in extended inter-group conflicts with more intelligent groups that organized themselves, and if they found themselves in environments with restricted caloric availability i.e. places with solid winters, cold climates up north, etc. There’s nothing “ironic” about it. It’s Hollywood.

      Third, I really don’t think it is at all beyond the pale to think such a thing couldn’t happen. Katrina showed just how possible this is, and that didn’t have anything to do with biological stuff and so on.

      What Katrina really showed is how having a large population of low-IQ, pathological, feral, etc. individuals and groups sucks big time and compounds any problems like massive disasters to make them much worse. Compare and contrast Katrina and Haiti with disasters in more homogeneous, orderly places like Japan.

    • Abelard Lindsey said

      Obsidian,

      Links to all nine videos are on Al-fin’s website (alfin2100.blogspot.com).

      The first few videos are good and an accurate portrayal of what a pandemic would be like. They become more silly as they progress. For one, there would be no reason to leave the city, because the utilities (electricity, gas, water) would be re-established within a month of the plague burning itself out (4 months following the on set of the plague).

      The series ends up with society returning to a mid 19th century level of technology, which is just plain silly. It will be relatively easy to restart the utilities and factories following such a plague. Indeed, things will be better because many real jobs involving manufacturing or energy production will become available for the first time in a generation (nuclear power plant technicians, most any job in the petroleum industry, etc.) because many people who have these jobs will die in the plague, thus opening up these jobs for new comers.

      I actually think that a pandemic that kills 50-70& of the human race will lead to increased rates of economic growth and technological innovation in the post plague economy because of the increased opportunities for upward mobility that would result from such a pandemic. Many of the parasite white collar jobs will go away, because there will be enough real jobs (involving manufacturing and what not) and much of the regulatory apparatus would be gone as well.

      There is historical precedent for this. The black death of Europe killed 50% of Europeans, thus breaking the back of the guild system that held every back. The resulting labor shortage made it such that anyone could do any economic activity (stone mason, iron smith, etc.) without having to conform to the guild system. This allowed for innovation and increasing standards of living which, in turn, lead to the Renaissance and Enlightenment. It is the opinion of every historian on the planet that the European Renaissance and Enlightenment would not have occurred if it were not for the black death.

      There are only two things that destroy social and cultural hierarchy and rigidity that inhibits innovation and progress. One is the opening of a new frontier. The other is a pandemic that kills 50% of the population. This means we either need someone to develop cheap FTL space travel or a pandemic every 200 years.

      I prefer the cheap FTL space travel (Extended Heim Theory???).

  6. Alkibiades said

    Booze works better for batter than gold.

    • Alkibiades said

      barter

    • Spike said

      I’ve always worked on the principle that people who know how to make beer and cure tobacco will never want for anything come the fall of civilization. If anything, demand will rise.

      Hell, farming/gardening in general is pretty useful. Sweet potatos are coming in good this year.

  7. S Blumenthal said

    Anyone read Neil ‘The Game’ Strauss’ book ‘Emergency’? He goes around interviewing survivalists who presumably prepare for this kind of thing.

  8. Aki_Izayoi said

    Booze would not be recommended in such a time. Doesn’t alcohol cause dehydration?

  9. Aki_Izayoi said

    Sorry for the double post as I was watching it while I was posting… I found the part about the father being upset about the son not eating the snake funny. His son said he wanted to die, and that made his father upset. I suppose this illustrates his genetic interests and his desire to maximize his chances of passing on his genes to the next generation although his son has no desire to live in a such a dismal world.

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  11. lurker said

    I don’t get the joke. What does the crockery thing mean?

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