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Asian Internet Addiction Really Kills

Posted by PlanetGrok on March 12, 2010

As readers of this blog know, one of the negative traits of East Asians is their propensity to extreme introversion. The average skeptical white American thinks that the Chinese government’s concern with their homeland’s  rampant internet addiction is just an excuse to curb free speech. But there is a good HBD explanation to the Chinese internet addiction problem: East Asians just do not like interacting with real people very much, even when it comes to romance.

This is a serious problem in Asia, where people kill over World of Warcraft.

But the evil of Asian introversion has sunk to a new low:

A South Korean couple addicted to the Internet left their 3-month-old daughter to starve to death while they raised a virtual daughter online during 12-hour bouts at a cyber cafe, police said.

The husband and wife had been on the run since their baby, born prematurely, died five months ago of severe dehydration and malnutrition, police said. They were arrested this week near their home south of the capital Seoul and charged today with child abuse and neglect.

Police say the couple left their infant alone in their apartment and rushed back from the Internet cafe just once a day to feed her. South Korea’s official Yonhap news agency first reported the arrests, quoting police.

WTF, Asians?

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Honorable Grokkian and blogger extraordinaire Ferdinand Bardamu points me to another great example of extreme Asian introversion killing someone: A 28 year old Korean man plays video games for 50 hours straight until he dies of exhaustion.

These extreme cases of internet addiction come almost exclusively from East Asian countries, so I’m absolutely certain there’s an HBD explanation here.

Maybe it is a combination of introversion AND lack of creativity? An asian with these traits in extreme might have difficulty enjoying life without the vicarious thrill of existing in a world  made by someone else’s imagination, and little need for social interaction.

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18 Responses to “Asian Internet Addiction Really Kills”

  1. My personal favorite case of Asian internet addiction was the Korean guy who died of exhaustion after playing Starcraft at an internet cafe for 50 hours straight. Turns out that just prior to his suicide binge, he’d lost his job and his girlfriend had dumped him…both because he spent too much time playing Starcraft.

    PG, you may also want to read this article on video game addiction:

    http://www.cracked.com/article_18461_5-creepy-ways-video-games-are-trying-to-get-you-addicted.html

  2. My last three male roommates have been ultra shut-in type WoW dudes. Hence, my sympathy to Whiskey’s crazy rants.

    I was kinda pissed at the time but I’ve realized they are some of the better kinds of male roommates. They’re relatively clean and quiet and any time you have female company over you look like some alpha-badass comparatively.

    • PlanetGrok said

      LOL, I know what you mean.

      Back when I was in college living in the nerdy “Honors dorms”, I’d guess a good 50-70% of guys were still virgins. They were in awe of those of us with normal social lives.

  3. Desi Female Pick Up Artist said

    PG, check this:

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2010/03/11/2010-03-11_pure_evil_nj_fantatic_aswad_ayinde_charged_with_raping_daughters_having_children.html

  4. Whites don’t even have to invent diseases that would wipe out and supress Asians. All Blizzard has to do is invent great video games, and Asian society will be screwed, because playing WoW and SC creates no value at all, and is a waste of bloody time.

  5. Asian of Reason, why would Whites want to “wipe out” Asians?

  6. Rex said

    It’s probably mostly the introversion. And perhaps there is a tendency towards addiction that may be involved as well. For example, many Asians are very much into gambling, which may indicate a tendency for addiction. I’m not sure if lack of creativity is involved here. Seems like it would mostly be introversion and addiction tendencies.

    I wouldn’t say that Asians don’t like interacting with real people. I think due to their introversion they have trouble meeting random people casually and informally and becoming friends as is common in the West. It’s probably generally stressful, uncomfortable, and difficult for them.

    Recently, there was a long rant about Japan written by a white guy who has been living and working there:

    http://kotaku.com/5484581/japan-its-not-funny-anymore?skyline=true&s=i

    It’s quite long, but there’s a part where he mentions the “friends” issue: “how do Japanese people make friends? The answer seems to be that, in any sense other than meeting people through school, work, or companies related to their company, they don’t. (Not saying that friends you make at work aren’t “real” friends, though hey.)”

    Like this guy notes, Asians generally seem to make friends and form relationships through formal settings and relations and through introductions. They tend not to through more informal settings and channels. This matches my own experience with Asians and what I’ve observed of them. I would say they enjoy interacting with real people that they’ve become friends with by meeting them through formal channels, but that they have trouble with meeting or don’t prefer to meet people randomly. This might explain why Asians seem to often be in tight knit-groups or social circles.

    • I will agree with you on the average Asian tendency towards addiction and towards introversion. I’m fairly uncomfortable meeting people outside of formal situations, I think it’s awkward when I’m trying to meet random people, in say, a bar. Many of the other Asians I know feel the exact same way. I’ve spent a quite a bit of time in the US, so I’m not quite convinced it’s an entirely cultural thing.

      I think I trend towards addictive behavior as well, for example, I’ve been addicted to blogging and reading HBD blogs these past few weeks…

      It’s extremely hard to pull myself away from something.

      Video games have never appealed to me, for some odd reason. Strategy games and RPG games puzzle me greatly.

      I also don’t understand gambling, so this is one thing I’m sure I’ll never be addicted to. I don’t understand the stock market either, which seems like another version of gambling to me. I’ve done extensive reading on both card games and the stock market, so it’s not from lack of knowledge. I just don’t get why people would do it. I’m very risk averse.

      Asians trend towards risk-aversion as well, and gambling is risky behavior, so I’m a bit puzzled as to why a lot of Asians love gambling.

  7. Rex – The first thing you will notice if you ever go to India is the lack of social life. Indians socialize with their FAMILY MEMBERS. They have a VERY BIG social life and much drama due to family ties, and they are always busy going to their “functions” or “wedding parties” … but it’s all family, or “friends” who are connected to the family, who in turn BECOME part of the family, as everyone in India is called a brother or a sister or an aunt or an uncle, despite not being blood related.

    On the otherhand we here in the West appear to be very “lonely and isolated” to Indians because we have no extended family involvement.

    I’m assuming it’s the same way in Japan?

    • Rex said

      Interesting points you mention regarding India. I would say East Asians are also more family oriented, especially compared to the West. Though among recent generations of East Asians, family size has been getting smaller, which might have reduced the extended family social life still very prevalent in India. This might partially explain the recent phenomenon of deadly Asian internet addiction. Since it seems that East Asians form friendships and social life through formal channels and relations like family, work, school, etc., the decline in extended family size may have meant a decline in the number of formal channels and social structures available for them to form friends and social lives. Fewer formal channels means fewer friends and less of a social life, and greater introversion means that one is less likely to seek out random strangers in informal settings. So this leaves them vulnerable to something like internet addiction, especially if they have a tendency towards addiction in the first place.

      Also, like you say regarding Indians in the West, I would say that many Asians in the West can seem “lonely and isolated” to Asians because fewer extended family members can mean fewer formal channels which can mean fewer friends and less of a social life.

      Similar to India, in Japan and Korea (not exactly sure about China) familial terms such as brother, sister, aunt, uncle, etc., are used to call non-blood related people who become friends or relations.

  8. Shnugi said

    Maybe Asians are able to be held in suspended belief longer and more intensely while playing games.

  9. Maynard said

    This is why nobody takes “HBD” seriously. Gaming addictions happen worldwide, and if the first thing you think is “OMG this must be attributable to RACE!!!1” then that’s pretty stupid — shallow thinking par excellence. It would be like some Korean reading an article about American obesity and being “absolutely certain” that white people are biologically inclined to eat junk and get fat. That there is a phenomenon of white college kids dying from binge drinking at frat parties doesn’t mean that there is some racial determination for this.

    http://www.sk-gaming.com/content/26654-Starcraft_player_charged_after_knife_attack

    http://allaboutthegames.co.uk/feature_story.php?headline=Gaming-addict-kills-mother-then-plays-Counter-Strike-News&article_id=10101

    The more obvious thought would be that some people have mental problems or are unbalanced in some way, and if many people in a society engage in some activity, some of them will be unbalanced.

    And, for what it’s worth, in Asian countries, most people go to play games at internet cafes as compared to in the west where people stay in their rooms or their basements or whatever. It’s a marginally more social experience.

  10. Rex said

    And, for what it’s worth, in Asian countries, most people go to play games at internet cafes as compared to in the west where people stay in their rooms or their basements or whatever. It’s a marginally more social experience.

    Cities and towns will have a good number of internet cafes that are very cheap. The ones I went to were all well-furnished, clean, and comfortable. Many of them would sell food, drinks, snacks, etc. There’s usually smoking allowed inside, but it wasn’t a problem for me (non-smoker) as they had good ventilation and often special ventilation directly above each station to draw the smoke away immediately and directly. Though the ones I went to were all in major cities in Korea and Japan. I imagine those in more rural areas would not be as nice.

    And it’s true that there’s a social aspect to the internet cafes. While there definitely are the loner types who hang out there alone all day, many guys will go there as a group to play a 1st Person Shooter game or something against each other, sitting next to each other, talking to each other during the game, talking trash, etc. There are also Playstation Cafes where guys will just go to play FIFA Soccer for a couple hours against each other on a big screen.

    Here’s a pretty good description of the kind of internet cafes I’m talking about and that I visited in Korea and Japan:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PC_bang

  11. Rex said

    Also, video gaming, especially Starcraft, is huge in Korea not just among lone gamers but as a “sport.” They have televised competitions between star gamers, with two TV channels devoted exclusively to video gaming competitions and Starcraft. The young pro gaming stars make good bank and they’re pretty famous, with tons of young girl fans and groupies. During the competitions on TV you’ll see rows of seats filled with young girl groupies cheering on two Starcraft “athletes” sitting in a stylized cubicle playing Starcraft against each other.

    Here are some good links about it:

    http://www.sc2blog.com/2008/01/16/starcraft-2-january-discussion-topic-esports/

    http://rossignol.cream.org/?p=284

  12. Hungry Hungry Hippos said

    God forbid starcraft 2 ever actually comes out or South Korea might declare a national holiday and spend 40 hours straight playing it.

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