The Racial Tallies Are In
Posted by PlanetGrok on March 10, 2010
And here are the results:
East Asians
Strengths: Mathematical ability, diligence, high IQ, nonviolent, lack of BO
Weaknesses: Shy, overly cautious, lacking in fully developed sexual organs.
Blacks
Strengths: Charisma, athletic ability, sex organs/ability, music (sometimes)
Weaknesses: Violent, low IQ, low class, resentful
Whites
Strengths: Wide range of abilities, from athleticism to intelligence. A non-specialized, jack-of-all trades race. More personality, aggression and assertiveness than Asians, with much higher IQs than blacks. (obviously) The happy median.
Weaknesses: A tendency to self-flagellate, lack of ethnic awareness and solidarity.
South Asians
Strengths: Class conscious, hard-working, family oriented, versatile, rich culture
Weaknesses: Putrid B.O., shyness, weak, effeminate men.
Native American Hispanics
Strengths: ?
Weaknesses: Low IQ, violent gangs, Asian-like bodies, fecundity
Well, it looks like someone got the short end of the stick…Mainstream politicians must be better at all this HBD stuff than me, because I can’t see any strengths there.
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The Asian of Reason said
Strengths for Native American Hispanics?
-high fertility, family orientated, good cooking abilities, wow I’m running blank on this one too, lol.
They don’t really have Asian-like bodies either. They are on average, much rounder, and maybe even shorter.
I think you mean “South Asians” instead of “Southeast Asians”. South Asians come from the region around India. Southeast Asians are from Thailand, Cambodia, Indonesia, Malaysia, etc, and are different from South Asians.
Thanks again for the link!
PlanetGrok said
Yes, that was a sloppy mistake on my part. Sorry readers. Fixed.
levi johnston said
re: shortness
Epidemiologists struggle with the “Hispanic paradox” where uneducated and poor Hispanics live longer than whites in this country, much like Asians. Of course no one ever mentions that Hispanics/Asians could live longer because they are shorter
PlanetGrok said
Interesting point. Small dogs live longer than big dogs.
Phoenixism said
Aw c’mon, look at me.
Doesn’t that speak for itself!?
Yes, I’m a little befuddled by the “Asian-like bodies” thing? Where’d you pull that one out of, Grok?
Actually, AoR, the same phenomena that shaped Asian physical development in this country has also affected Hispanics. The native and 1st generation immigrants are well below the size average of Americans. Within a couple of generations, they begin to grow taller with the Americanized diet, although at the expense of some really fucked up health, courtesy of said diet; quite a double-edged sword.
We are an untapped resource damnit. This is just not our space-time moment in civilization’s path for us to shine.
PlanetGrok said
Hispanic people with heavily Native american features have round, dumpy little bodies, much like Asians.
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Phoenixism said
Hahaha dude, this a study which includes “Oriental” as a test group and the paper is only 10 years old.
Reader said
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Sagat said
Hey Grok,
You’ve mixed up South Asians with Southeast Asians. There’s a huge distinction there. The Indo-Asians are the South Asians while the Southeast Asians are the Burmese, Thai, Lao, Malaysians, Indonesians, and Filipinos. Some people include Viets in with SE Asians; they are mostly Chinese descent but they have a lot of SE Asians in the country too.
Just wanted to clear that up. SE Asians aren’t the ones with horrendous BO.
Mountain Dew said
Who falls under “Native American Hispanic”?
Camlost said
I think that Native American Hispanic means Mestizo.
PlanetGrok said
correctamundo, Senor
OM said
What’s this with East Asians have “under-developed genitals”????
WTF?
Where did you get THAT from?
And Native Americans being in gangs? Native North Americans?
Come on!
Plus, a lot of Native American Indian dudes are HOT! (and no I’m not talking about that wolf dude either)
PlanetGrok said
According to online sources and a female friend or two, Asian and Hispanic men are….mmm…short down there. Just reportin’.
Asian women certainly have small breasts and childlike bodies, so it makes sense for something similar to be going on with their men, also.
Prime said
You forgot about dancing and jump rope for black strengths
PlanetGrok said
Doesn’t that fall under athleticism and music, respectively?
Prime said
OK, how bout doing braids then?
The Asian of Reason said
I’ve noticed that Southeast Asians are very similar to Amerindians, in terms of IQ, skin color, height, facial features, etc. Sometimes I can’t even tell them apart. The Filipinos have Spanish last names as well, which makes it even more confusing.
Amerindians are different from mestizos. Mesitzos refers to people of mixed European and Amerindian blood.
Sagat said
You can tell the SE Asians apart from the Amerindians by the water buffaloes.
PlanetGrok said
Should I dumb it down and just put “Mexicans” as the title? I didn’t want to use a nationality in place of an ethnicity, because I thought my readers would get it the way it is.
Mountain Dew said
It’s not really about “dumbing it down”, but Native American Hispanic is way too broad. Mestizo is a mixture of Native American and European and that spans the entire Southern hemisphere. I find that, in the HBD community, the majority of people who have interacted with Hispanics/Latinos (whichever) have mainly dealt with Mexicans and tend to lump every other Hispanic with them.
The Asian of Reason said
How does this sound?
Brown Spanish Speaking People.
PlanetGrok said
Let’s be honest: Most mexican illegals encountered in the US are predominantly Native American, as HBD predicts.
Even in a craphole like Mexico, the cream rises to the top of the taco dip.
Mountain Dew said
Well, that’s heading in a better direction AofR.
@PG
“Let’s be honest: Most mexican illegals encountered in the US are predominantly Native American, as HBD predicts.”
And what does this have to do with HBDers lumping all Hispanics as Mexican?
Chuck said
Hispanics – namely Mexicans – are hard-working and family-oriented. Yeah, there are some who devolve into gangs and such, but I think they follow the pattern of all ethnicities: the second- and third- generations fight against the system that their parents were forced to survive in.
Thus the rise of Asian gangs in many big cities.
People dump on Hispanics, but one thing I’ve always admired and even envied about them are their close family ties. They seem to have a more naive attitude about loyalty, respect, and family; which is a good thing in this overly fragmented modern society.
But I’ll admit that its hard to attribute universal traits to Hispanics since they seem to take many different forms and are more ubiquitous than blacks even.
PlanetGrok said
Aren’t most Asian gangs comprised of the lower-IQ Vietnamese and Filipinos? I know there are exceptions in Chinatown, for instance, but in most of the US, East Asian gangs are nonexistent.
The Asian of Reason said
It’s called the math club, duh.
PlanetGrok said
Oh shit, I forgot about those guys.
*psst*…Can I cop some proofs off you?
Prime said
I just read a study that Episcopalians are the subgroup the best at proofs. They’re still working on the God one, though 😉
Desi Mother/Son Obsession said
The number one drawback for South Asian (Desi) men, that includes Indians, Pakis, Nepalis, Sri Lankans and Bangladeshis – is their unhealthy and Freudian attachment to their MOTHERS and their mothers’ obsession with their sons – throughout his entire life.
This South Asian woman analyses it on her blog:
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The latest entry “An Ode To Mothering Desi Sons” contains a HILARIOUS video segment from the popular British comedy show “Goodness Gracious Me” which, starting from the 5:30 mark onward showcases in a slightly exaggerated (emphasis on “slightly”) fashion this dysfunctional dynamic which, I think, is indeed a GENETIC component of Desi Moms and their sons. It’s so deep-seeded within them that it CANNOT but be genetic.
Desi Mother/Son Obsession said
Correction: that’s girlsguidetosurvival DOT wordpress DOT com.
I forget this “s”. I’m not linking to it since you put links in moderation for some reason.
Vincent Ignatius said
LOL. Damn, if I had any sense of ethnic solidarity I would probably be very offended.
PlanetGrok said
We sociopaths have no use for such things.
David Alexander said
So black people are useless with no value?
iktikn said
@David Alexander
Well if you consider their strengths – “charisma, athletic ability, sex organs/ability, music (sometimes)” – useful(which I don’t) then they are not useless.
To me personally shyness and cautiousness are not weakness. Why would you assert that East Asians lack fully developed sexual organs? Just because they are smaller than black or white sexual organs. Is the size of their organs an impediment to their reproduction? Are East Asian females incapable of producing milk for their offspring? Do East Asian sexual organs have some defects that we lack knowledge of? Can you direct us to any research that proves this.
As chuck said Hispanics are hard-working and family-oriented. Why did you not consider this? Do you have a bias since your country is being invades by us? Your definition is too broad. Hispanics are a very diverse group of people. If you meant Spanish speaking Native Americans you should put Native Americans. If you meant all ethnic group that are culturally Latin American you should put Hispanics. If you meant people of mixed European and Native American ancestry you should put Mestizos.
All my extended family are mestizos and we don’t look like Asians we tend to look mostly Caucasian with very brown skin and dark hair. I am myself only brown in my face and arms the rest of my skin is white(same with my brother, father and mother). I even have some extended family with white skin and blond/brown hair and even an aunt with red hair. Questions. You may need to read some material on Mendelian inheritance to understand this better.
David Alexander said
Well if you consider their strengths – “charisma, athletic ability, sex organs/ability, music (sometimes)” – useful(which I don’t) then they are not useless.
But it’s useless since black people basically live like crap sans white intervention. It’s all useless without high IQ to build a civilization to enjoy it in.
PlanetGrok said
“Do you have a bias since your country is being invades [sic] by us?”
Well, at least you used the term “invade”, which is accurate. You did not wield the word correctly, however. Invasions might make the invaded people a little bit biased, don’t ya think?
iktikn said
English is not my native language. Immigrating for a better life, invasion, reconquista the idea is the same. Non-Hispanic people are being replaced by Hispanics in the USA. “Invasions might make the invaded people a little bit biased, don’t ya think?” Well “We sociopaths have no use for such things.”
PlanetGrok said
It’s not something I personally get all emotional about, since I’m not an emotional person.
The way you worded your statement was just funny to me.
Phoenixism said
Iktikn, I don’t think it’s wise nor productive for the invaders or invaded to resort to the “invasion” meme.
Using that word in this context is akin to flipping someone the finger during a bout of road rage. Personally, I don’t find any solace in being any part of this “invasion.” I don’t want to replace anyone nor commandeer this ship…
Can’t we all just get along (sometimes that trite BS begs to be used).
Camlost said
There’s two types of “Hispanics” on this planet:
1. Spanish-speaking Caucasians of Euro-Iberian descent
2. Every other Spanish-speaking person in existence (this includes admixture of African and Native Central/South American genes)
People in group 1 are in the whiter and wealthier class in every nation in which they live. They don’t mix very much outside of their own kid, especially with those of noticeably darker complexion. This holds for Mexico, the Dominican Republic, Argentina and so on, ad infinitum. The people in group 1 don’t often immigrate to the US, and certainly don’t do it by sneaking across borders.
Derek said
There’s two types of “Hispanics” on this planet:
1. Spanish-speaking Caucasians of Euro-Iberian descent
2. Every other Spanish-speaking person in existence (this includes admixture of African and Native Central/South American genes)
Even those in category 1 aren’t that “pure” and often have non-trivial Amerind and even African admixture.
This isn’t limited to the Americas. Non-trivial sub-Saharan admixture is found in Iberia as well:
http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/123270375/abstract?CRETRY=1&SRETRY=0
levi johnston said
There are noticeably different cultural differences between the elites/general population of central vs. south americans. Most Chileans and Argentines probably consider themselves “white” even though genetic admixture studies show significant proportions of Amerinidian (and African) admixture proportional to that of Northern Mexican states.
levi johnston said
fecundity
Which is somewhat counter-intuitive, as it was Mexican Luis Miramontes who was helped invent the first hormonal contraceptive 😉
PlanetGrok said
Let’s just say he was well-aquainted with the problem.
OM said
“Which is somewhat counter-intuitive, as it was Mexican Luis Miramontes who was helped invent the first hormonal contraceptive ”
Which have extremely serious and dangerous side-effects and should be outlawed. Condoms thus far are the only contraceptives that should be LEGALLY enforced on men. Or they can opt for (reversable) vasectomy.
The Perfect Man said
My Recipe for a Perfect Male Speciman:
The facial features of the Middle Eastern/Persian man.
The coloring of the Meditternean Greek/Maltese man.
The muscle tone, physique and sexual allure/prowess of the African man.
The IQ of the East Asian and/or Ashkenazi Jewish man.
The spiritual depth of the South Asian (Desi Hindu Yogi Indian) man.
The poetic way with words of the Latin man.
………… am I missing anything? Jamila are you here?
Pseudothyrum said
Mass-miscegenation means the decline and eventual death of cultures and nations: hence various mass-miscegenated scumholes like Latin America (Amerindian/White/Black), South Asia (various Asiatic mix-ups: has been called a “sewer of humanity”), Central Asia (White/Asian/bit of Semitic), the Middle East (morass of Semitic race-mixing due to it being a trading crossroads), North Africa (White/Semitic/Black), etc. The only places worth a damn on Earth are where the White and Asian races exist unmixed.
East Asians are like ants — no individuality, just faceless worker drones. They are unoriginal copy-cats who would still be living on small farms if they hadn’t copied everything from The West.
Hispanics/Mestizos are too miscegenated, hence their low sociocultural level. They will never amount to anything due to their mixed-up blood.
Whites are too individualistic, which means they are currently being (partially) overcome by more collectivistic ethnic/racial groups like Jews, East Asians, some Indians, etc. If Whites became more collectivist-oriented no other race would be able to even remotely compete with them, and they would rule the world.
Black Africans are half chimpanzees who are tens of thousands of years behind Whites and Asians in evolutionary terms; their “charisma” is nothing more than mere primitive ‘animal magnetism’ (the kind you might encounter amongst caged wild animals). In a few hundred years (or less) Whites and Asians will probably take over and colonize Sub-Saharan Africa, thus driving simian-like Blacks mostly extinct.
Yeah, that about sums it up.
These comments must be the ones that makes Steve Sailer keep his blog moderated. – ed.
Kilmer said
In a few hundred years (or less) Whites and Asians will probably take over and colonize Sub-Saharan Africa, thus driving simian-like Blacks mostly extinct.
The thing about sub-Saharan Africa is that it is a source of highly sophisticated and ancient human-borne ecosystems capable of subverting even urbane “disease experience” outside of Africa.
So high-IQ populations may be at a disadvantage in such an ecology over the long-run relative to the low-IQ indigenous populations there. And even if the indigenous populations were exterminated, it’s possible that the selective pressures of the ecology would result in things like a lowering of IQ over time and the return of atavistic behavioral traits. This doesn’t mean that they will become just like Africans, but that there will be enormous pressures in that direction.
Kilmer said
In a few hundred years (or less) Whites and Asians will probably take over and colonize Sub-Saharan Africa, thus driving simian-like Blacks mostly extinct.
The thing about sub-Saharan Africa is that it is a source of highly sophisticated and ancient human-borne ecosystems capable of subverting even urbane “disease experience” outside of Africa.
So high-IQ populations may be at a disadvantage in such an ecology over the long-run relative to the low-IQ indigenous populations there. Even if the indigenous populations were exterminated, it’s possible that the selective pressures of the ecology would result in things like a lowering of IQ over time and the return of atavistic behavioral traits. This doesn’t mean that they will become just like Africans, but that there will be enormous pressures towards that direction.
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theobsidianfiles said
Well, since no one else has pointed this out, it falls to me to be the spoiler, LOL:
PG simply lumps all “Whites” into one big pot. Which in my view, really isn’t a good idea. Europe is a pretty big place, and when you toss in the fact that Arabs and Persians, among others, are also considered “White”, along with Jews, things can get pretty complicated.
Moreover, I find it interesting how PG dodges DA’s comments. Ironic, given his recent comments about my own blogging efforts.
Pot, meet kettle much?
LOL
O.
PlanetGrok said
Throughout much of the US, whites are essentially one big melted group. Only in a few urban enclaves do you find relative ethnic purity like “Little Italy”, etc. But most of America is not like that.
As far as DA’s comments, you are trying to maneuver me into hanging myself with my own words. Cute, but not going to happen.
Personally, I find a lot of value in sex and music and engaging, charismatic personalities. You don’t?
For example, I’d probably rather hang out with you, Obsidian, than the average, dry, math professor your age.
OM said
Most White Americans are descendents of low IQ European peasants and proles. Again, nothing wrong with peasants, proles and low IQs, but for the more intellectually inclined… it can be challenging to conversate and socialize with them, which we are forced to just by the nature of living amongst them.
Vincent Ignatius said
Maybe it’s because most high IQ people grew up around other relatively high IQ people, so they never learned how to socialize with regular people.
I’ve also found that people with moderately high IQs (~2 sigmas) are the most snobby about their intelligence, probably because they can find a relatively large group of people like them. At greater IQs, you can’t be so picky or you’ll only find friends at math and physics departments of top universities.
PlanetGrok said
That’s true OM. I’m not putting the average white american on a pedestal. The average white European is much more intellectually orientated than the average white American.
Vincent’s observation is probably true also, except most 3+ sigmas actually don’t have any real-world friends at all unless they are in or have been in top math and physics departments. Most I’ve encountered were rather obviously socially inept.
The most well socialized of the 150+ IQ people I have known was actually the son of an ‘elite’ African immigrant and a white midwesterner. I think his natural African charisma helped him out.
PlanetGrok said
I actually happen to think that an IQ of 140 is the social sweet spot because then you are not dumbing yourself down too much to hang out with the more common 130 IQ types, but you can also fully appreciate the work of the 150+ geniuses.
OM said
I would think the biggest snobs would be the super high IQ peeps because there are so few people like them, they think they are better than everyone else. The moderately high IQ peeps would tend to be less snobby because they would often meet people at similar or higher IQs than them, so they would be kept humble by knowing smarter people than they are.
When you are the smartest in your family, on the block (or blog), in your school and practically everywhere you go – you’re gonna be stuck up, right?
What about people who are philosophically “geniuses” but not good at math? Would math experts be inclined to analyse abstract philosophical thought and the sutras of Vedanta or the Upanishads? Would those philosophers neccessarily be good at calculus?
Professor Hale said
no. The biggest snobs are in the 90-110 IQ range, but with a college degree. These people think they know it all and their smartness gives them the moral obligation to direct the government to force you to do it thier way.
Reader said
Hey, so you would rather prefer to hang out with Obsidian than a dry dude like me from the math department. Not good. 😀 I don’t think all people in this dept are boring: they go to pubs, go clubbing, go to parks etc. like everybody else. It is more the case that at at top university math department you got more pressure so you have to work long hours and on weekends so you have less time to socialize. But that does not mean you do not like to hand out with friends!!!
And why do you call Chinese to be yellow? In my department’s undergraduate classes I teach there are 50+% Chinese and I have not seen a yellow guy that far.
Reader said
I am not sure what you mean by super high IQ. Like IQ 150+? But I do not think those people are snobs. It is more of those ones in the lower IQ range 120-140 who think they are geniuses but do not believe it themselves. So they often try to show off, like to get called by their all-so-great titles etc. If you are convinced by yourself you do not need to around like this and actively seek validation of your skills!
Dr. Grzlickson said
Add “complaining ability” to the Blacks.
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I am a 6′ 2″ man born in the US, but of North Indian descent. I am well toned, not super muscular because I prefer yoga and outdoor sports to lifiting. I’m well educated and intelligent. I’ve been told – and believe – that I am very good looking. My immidiate and extended – all of whom are successful and live in India, Australia, Singapore, the UK and the US – family seem to share these physical and metal traits too. I’ve always been told that I smell nice, even without deodorant. On the other hand, I’ve met many scaly Brits, French and southern Slavs who smell horrendous. I’ve also come across many East Asians that smell not so good, probably due to their food. I find that Greeks and some blacks smell the most neutral.
The only flaws you’d might find with me if we met would be that I’m left-wing and gay.